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: BMW people compare the new M3 to the 335i


Tuned200
03-21-2009, 12:51 PM
I dont know much about these, other than we took an 335 out and I love the car. I know the M has more power, better suspension and brakes, and looks like sex on wheels, but is it worth the extra coin? From what I have read, 400whp out of a 335 is easy and fairly cheap. A guy on a forum posted his mod list and its this.

downpipes = 650
catback = 1400
home-made dual cone intakes = 110ish
PROcede = 1400 (although Rev 2 which is coming soon will only be 950)

Why would I want an m3 or why would I take the 335i over the m3. Thanks.

GODSPEED
03-21-2009, 12:58 PM
I've researched these a ton. The brand new M3 is seriously, one of the best sports cars ever built...said by a ton of different people. Now, the new 335i is superior compared with the older style (04 05) M3.

blundar
03-21-2009, 11:51 PM
I had a tiptronic 335i on the dyno last year. I think he had the vishnu chip not the one you mentioned. The car went from ~320ish to ~395ish with nothing other than the chip and exhaust.

I was impressed.

Rogue Vette
03-22-2009, 12:07 AM
Both nice cars, but I say save the money and get the 335 over a new M3

whitedime
03-22-2009, 12:56 AM
As soon as you touch the ECU in that car the warranty is Voided period. From what I gather BMW has been pretty hardcore about it as well.

I would take the M, seems like every chode making 30k a year is driving a 335i, but then again it was the same case when I had my M3 and all the douches were rocking 330's LOL

gemballa996t
03-22-2009, 10:41 AM
As soon as you touch the ECU in that car the warranty is Voided period. From what I gather BMW has been pretty hardcore about it as well.

I would take the M, seems like every chode making 30k a year is driving a 335i, but then again it was the same case when I had my M3 and all the douches were rocking 330's LOL

30k and driving a 335? don't think so, or i would have one

whitedime
03-22-2009, 11:48 AM
30k and driving a 335? don't think so, or i would have one

Why don't you just lie about it? That seems to work for you in every other case.

And yes you could afford one making 30k, keyword "making 30k" Especially living at home (which you do) Its a crazy $4xx a month car payment :lol: but then you probably need better than JD Byrider worthy credit to get approved.

notbob
03-22-2009, 12:29 PM
umm dunno where u see a 335 for $400 a mo at?

if you do please let me know I'd like to trade in my lease for a brand new shiny one for even less to own it ;)

New M3 is a fail in the looks department due to the stupid hump.

335 major fault and it's huge = no real lsd rear end

Engine wise, 335 for the win, twin turbo sexiness and easy 400whp+

335 is cheaper on insurance

both eat tires are ridiculous rates, both use run flats which suck total balls

I've had my 335i for 40k miles now, and I have to say I still love the car as much as first day I drove it half a block before asking for the papers on it :)

I've had a '99 m3 before and honestly the m3 badging is just that, it's a badge. I don't see any reason to drop the extra 20k on an m3, I can afford them both and would choose a 335xi instead if I had to do it over again and was staying bmw. That being said I'm seriously considering an audi rs6 as my next nice car cause of how prices have come down :)

Zerolift01
03-22-2009, 02:41 PM
I have got to say that before i bought either the M3 or the 335i, i would seriously look
at a 135i.
I think that car's popularity will outgrow the new M Chassis ( besides the ability to have 4 doors ).
Yes there are warranty problems due to the factory datalog system, but if your plan is to buy it and Mod the thing anyhow, you probably don't care.

Tuned200
03-23-2009, 04:10 AM
I hate the looks of the 135.

From what I gather online comparing the new m3 to 335i is that you get a lot for the 20k price jump, suspension,brakes, better rear end, better tires and wheels, as well as the extra hp in stock form from the v8. I was put in my place by a subaru guy who works at a bmw dealership(not locally) when I bashed the new m with general comments like those above in this thread. So that's why I asked about differences.

Pam and I are thinking we are done with the lgt, and we have been looking at a few cars.

335i
370z(drove it yesterday, I fucking love it)
Solstice gxp

The pontiac is the cheapest, and a vert will will be fun but I hate the crap interior. The 370z is amazing, I like nearly everything about it minus the heavy price tag loaded with navi and big brakes. The335i is a sweet car, and also pricey with the options we want. So who know, we might end up keeping the lgt.

iamadvs1
02-18-2010, 08:57 PM
I've got an '08 M3 and have had a few problems. While my M3 problems are a story for another day, I do have some input on the whole 135i, 335i, M3 discussion. My local stealership has had my car more than me but I have gotten to drive some really nice loaners for extended periods of time.

One of the loaners I had for about 6 weeks was a 135i. Although it was an automatic this little puppy would run like stink. Powerful engine in a feather-weight car. What more could you ask for? One the down side, there is a reason that these little hot-rods are priced so low (for a BMW). They really skimped on the extras and the interior reminds me of a Honda or Toyota (ALL PLASTIC). They even skimped on the insulation so the thing rattled more than you would expect out of a BMW.

The second loaner I had for about 3 months was a 335i. It was also an automatic. Ran light a bat out of hell. The interior was up to BMW specs but for the price it should be. The 335i is not a bargain buy once you load it up with all the goodies. For just a little more and you've got an M3.

Both of these cars were very nice and were a joy to drive. However, upon returning them and leaving in my car, I was reminded as to why the M3 costs so much more. Nothing drives like it or handles like it. If you can afford one there is no contest - get one. One the other hand if you can't then get the 335i. You won't be unhappy and if get the auto you'll give a few manual transmission M3's a run for their money from light to light. If the 335i is out of your price range then get the 135i. Once again, you won't be disappointed. It's not be up to BMW standards in my opinion, but it sure as hell is better than most of the other sport cars out there.

BTM
02-18-2010, 09:40 PM
i have driven both, and you really cant compare an m3 to a 335i, even if the mods of a 335i bring hp up to the level of the m3.

driving a 335i is moderatly sporty, and decently quick, and is fun to drive.

driving an m3 was exhilarating. there is more of a race feel, its faster, and a blast to drive. the v8 sounds amazing too. its a completely different feeling car. it would be like going from a lancer to an evo to put it into comparison.

Strictlyb
02-18-2010, 09:47 PM
Ive driven every body style m3 and a 335i and 335xi... and as its been said you can boost the power up to the m3 level, but it still will not compare to the m3 because the whole chassis has been changed on the m3 and the suspension is far superior

...even my 95 m3 is faster than a stock 335... and handles a lot better because it is so much lighter... which is why the m3 gets the garage

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af13/mugellorot/sadbmwhappybmw.jpg?t=1266547733

gemballa996t
02-18-2010, 10:07 PM
Why don't you just lie about it? That seems to work for you in every other case.

And yes you could afford one making 30k, keyword "making 30k" Especially living at home (which you do) Its a crazy $4xx a month car payment :lol: but then you probably need better than JD Byrider worthy credit to get approved.

sorry i missed that buuuddy

9cobra4
02-18-2010, 10:28 PM
I've never driven a 335i, but my dad has a m3 and it is awesome! I love everything about it. Like I've gotten out of it and got into his gt500 and felt like I downgraded, obviously not power wise, but just the feel of the car, the gt5 is huge, and the bimmer feels just right.

iamadvs1
02-18-2010, 11:07 PM
There is also the fact that you can change suspension stiffness on-the-fly in the M3. I don't think the 335i has it as an option. Not having the technology package on a car would be like peanut butter with no bananas (thank you, thank you very much).

9cobra4
02-18-2010, 11:18 PM
Peanut butter with no bananas? Wtf?

sxShep
02-18-2010, 11:32 PM
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af13/mugellorot/sadbmwhappybmw.jpg?t=1266547733

:lol:

iamadvs1
02-18-2010, 11:34 PM
It's an Elvis reference.

Roca Fella Bryan
02-19-2010, 06:46 AM
I've got an '08 M3 and have had a few problems. While my M3 problems are a story for another day, I do have some input on the whole 135i, 335i, M3 discussion. My local stealership has had my car more than me but I have gotten to drive some really nice loaners for extended periods of time.

One of the loaners I had for about 6 weeks was a 135i. Although it was an automatic this little puppy would run like stink. Powerful engine in a feather-weight car. What more could you ask for? One the down side, there is a reason that these little hot-rods are priced so low (for a BMW). They really skimped on the extras and the interior reminds me of a Honda or Toyota (ALL PLASTIC). They even skimped on the insulation so the thing rattled more than you would expect out of a BMW.


People kill me when they say this. They act like the weight difference is so different between the two models when it really isn't. Just because the 1 series looks significantly smaller does not mean that its much lighter.

135i curb weight (lbs): 3,393

335i curb weight (lbs): 3,571

For an almost 200 pound difference, I'd much rather have a 335i which is a much better looking well equipped car. Also, when you option up even a 135i, they can get pretty damn expensive and you get the point when you might as well pick up the 3-series. :ty:

IRONBULL
02-19-2010, 07:54 AM
M3 sedan for the win......

BigBump
02-19-2010, 08:48 AM
There is no comparison when you're talking about the new M3 and a 335. The new M feels tighter, has better power delivery, handles better and if you choose to mod the M, not much can touch it.

335s are good cars, especially the xi version modded. However, driving it you can tell that it's tuned more for comfort and civility than the I'm on the edge of civility feeling you get in any M car. As far as the douche factor, well douches come in all units.

Bottom line - M wins.

notbob
10-31-2011, 02:35 PM
Ive driven every body style m3 and a 335i and 335xi... and as its been said you can boost the power up to the m3 level, but it still will not compare to the m3 because the whole chassis has been changed on the m3 and the suspension is far superior

...even my 95 m3 is faster than a stock 335... and handles a lot better because it is so much lighter... which is why the m3 gets the garage

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af13/mugellorot/sadbmwhappybmw.jpg?t=1266547733

Unless that 95 is severely modded I call total BS on the comment of out running the 335i. I've owned both a 99 M3 5-speed and a 07 335i 6-speed coupe, no question the 335i was clearly faster even with the weight difference.

Value wise the 335i is the best bang for the buck, the m3 is not worth the extra sticker shock unless you're just being handed money to burn and not working for it.

Biturbowagon
10-31-2011, 02:40 PM
yeah for bumping an old ass thread!

BruceLeeJKD
11-01-2011, 04:18 PM
Unless that 95 is severely modded I call total BS on the comment of out running the 335i. I've owned both a 99 M3 5-speed and a 07 335i 6-speed coupe, no question the 335i was clearly faster even with the weight difference.

Value wise the 335i is the best bang for the buck, the m3 is not worth the extra sticker shock unless you're just being handed money to burn and not working for it.

His M3 is Dinan supercharged so it probably is quicker than a stock 335i.

Nati
11-01-2011, 09:21 PM
if it aint g power it dont matter

charlie
11-02-2011, 02:00 PM
I haven't driven an M3 but I drove a new 335i and it pulled pretty hard. Super nice inside too.

runthis
12-05-2011, 10:06 PM
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