FMIC piping q

[red90AWD]

my buddy took his talon to your shop and he asked you guys to make all his intercooler piping and put his front mount on and someone said they would hook him up and they told him $700!!!!!! what kind of deal is that? you can buy a brand new intercooler kit for $700...... just wonderin why it would cost so much damn money.... thanks, matt

[YOULOST]

because they have to custom bend it.


hit up www.dejontool.com

[Kevin Doe]

because they have to custom bend it.


You don't have to custom bend IC pipes. Just get some mandrels and cut and weld them.

Kevin

[red90AWD]

thanks kevin... i was laughin at joes post.... my friend did his for like $90 and it looked good and everything.. i was stunned when i heard raceline would charge that much for not that much work

[Kevin Doe]

Shit, I did my entire exhaust for about that. And that was a 100% SS exhaust. You could order up some mandrels and cut and mark them yourself, then take it to a weld shop and have them weld it if you can't weld.

Kevin

[red90AWD]

yea thats what were gonna end up doin but he just wanted to check prices so he didnt have to fuck with it if it was cheap...

[YOULOST]

I know its pretty easy.... just get some straight and mandrel bent sections at jegs or summit and have someone cut them and weld it up

[NOLV4V8]

because they have to custom bend it.


hit up www.dejontool.com

dejon tool can kiss my ass

JUNK

buy a buschur kit or INDY race cores.

dave up there can kiss my ass

[Kevin Doe]

buy a buschur kit


Of course the guy that thinks a car can't be fast w/o Buschur parts recommends his parts. Have you ever realized that his parts are grossly overpriced???? But I guess that if you need them to go fast, why not?

Not sure why everyone is stuck up Buschurs ass? Not refering solely to you.

Kevin
p.s.- I would have never bought a Buschur core brand new. I only bought it because it was used and very very cheap.

[Kevin Doe]

I do agree on the fact that Dejon Tools pipes are pretty cheap though. I don't like the way he uses sheetmetal for flanges. They are only like 14ga or something like that. But thats what I'm using due to getting them used and very very cheap too.

Kevin

[Tuned200]

dejon tool can kiss my ass

JUNK

buy a buschur kit or INDY race cores.

dave up there can kiss my ass

I take it you have buschur parts? How much have you spent on you car, and how fast is it? Not trying to be a prick, but now always the most expensive car is the fastest car. Dont take me wrong, I like your car..

[Kevin Doe]

I see tuned200 and I are on the same wavelength.

[red90AWD]

i know he hates dejon tool because all the problems hes had w/ there shit on his car... buschur is definatley over priced so i wont go to them...

[DEL SLW]

that 700 i'm sure includes labor. yes, you can get prebent piping. for $100-$200.
but then you add in all the couplers and clamps it adds up. it's not a simple hour long job.

[Tuned1]

that 700 i'm sure includes labor. yes, you can get prebent piping. for $100-$200.
but then you add in all the couplers and clamps it adds up. it's not a simple hour long job.


Yes that is parts being the piping. Labor and even what ever finish coat he wanted on the piping and removing all the old piping ,bumber, mounting the intercooler, measure piping, cutting welding etc. In most cases if the part/s you are in need of are already in mass production it usually is cheaper to purchase those than have someone custom fab it for you. We do our own fab work here @ Raceline, but most of the time it is things no one else offers. Sorry if you think our quote for your friend was high, and im glad you got a kick out of it. I feel our prices are very fair.

[Mastaflash]

yeah each straight silicone hose is like 10$ and a step, 45, or 90 are like $45.

[NOLV4V8]

I take it you have buschur parts? How much have you spent on you car, and how fast is it? Not trying to be a prick, but now always the most expensive car is the fastest car. Dont take me wrong, I like your car..

thanks! I wish i liked my car tho.... I never stated my car is the fastest either. I havent been able to enjoy the car PERIOD in over a year now, due to SHITTY dejon tool parts.

I do have bushcur parts. And I have dejon parts, the truth is my car isnt nearly as fast as it could be due to the dejon part. Truth is I have spent a lot of money on my car, all to be bit in the ass on a crappy part. I have spent a majority of the money trying to get the right parts. and again I have to spend more now to fix em :shakehead

Of course the guy that thinks a car can't be fast w/o Buschur parts recommends his parts. Have you ever realized that his parts are grossly overpriced???? But I guess that if you need them to go fast, why not?

i guess you dont know me that well, i'm not stupid nor blind. I bought them from Tym, as many of you know tym now has his own business, not dave. Everything I have gotten from him FITS perfectly and for the most part functions perfectly! Tym has been there there for whatever and has fixed any problems that I have had, and is going to continue to do so, also its about customer service not price, i go where i get good service, thats the key, ill pay more, im not that cheap when it comes to customer service. You get what you pay for. Tym designed all of daves parts, and if it wasnt for tym dave wouldnt be where he is today. I have been bitten in the ass to many times to buy shitty parts. Opinions apart, you get what you pay for.

again DEJON can blow me. I bought their intake manfiold thinking they were a decent company. Now dave johnson wont return my emails etc. And their manfiold doesnt seat to the head or TB period. Ive givin up.

critisize if you like, I personally dont care, I am just recomendign things that I have purchased that FIT and FUNCTION well.

[Tuned1]

yeah each straight silicone hose is like 10$ and a step, 45, or 90 are like $45.

3' section of silicone connectors uncut is around $100.00, the good clamps are $4-8 each.

If you do it right its never cheap...period

[Mastaflash]

yep. you guys carry silicone hoses right?

[Kevin Doe]

Hmmm, lets see what Kevin found:

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/hoseandclamps.htm

Straight hose at $25/ft.
Hump hose connectors at $25 ea.
Transition hose connectors at $24 ea.

These are all high quality reinforced hoses. Maybe Raceline buys RREs hoses then adds their own markup ;) .

Lets see what Kevin can now find for high quality Clampco T-Bolt clamps.

http://trucknbusclamps.safeshopper.com/32/cat32.htm?817

Every size is only $5 ea.

Damn I'm good. I thought the $700 was just to make pipes, not for the entire install. The install of my IC took a long time, lots of bumper cover trimming, taking my time, and I wouldn't do it for someone for under $700. But it can be done yourself for MUCH cheaper.

Kevin

[9secondtalon]

Buschur parts overpriced? Yeah, but its a quality part with research behind it. Me and David don't get along anymore but the parts are still good. And as far as the $ spent on Robs car, its not as much as you think= thanks to someone on the inside. All the Buschur parts on the car have worked FLAWLESS, the one Dejon part we used bit us in the ass, won't make that mistake again.

As for Racelines price, not to bad for QUALITY work/parts. You get what you pay for. If you can't afford the prices you have to make due with what you can afford, so for all you DIY guys with the wiz wheels and the black marker= my hats of to you; you make things work.

[DEL SLW]

I wouldn't do it for someone for under $700. But it can be done yourself for MUCH cheaper.

Kevin


EXACTLY!!!!

i did mine for a lot cheaper than that. but i didn't use all quality parts, and if i billed myself for the hours it took......then yeah, it would have cost a lot more

-Robbie

[Kevin Doe]

so for all you DIY guys with the wiz wheels and the black marker= my hats of to you; you make things work.

I really hope you dont' think all DIY guys do things half assed. I can assure you that I do my work much more thorough and quality than any shop around. I use better parts than most shops, do better fabrication, and it shows. Please don't say all DIY guys are chops. Not only do I make things work, I make them work better than most. I'm sure a lot of DIY guys do the same. Its not that I can't afford going to a shop, I don't want inferior work to what I know I can do myself.

Kevin

p.s. - I am not refering to Raceline or any shop in particular when I say that I can do better work. Its all general refernces.

[coolnick]

WOW!!!

What a retarded thread, I had to jump in and tell you all that you are all crappy fabricators, you are all rip-off artists, and Dave Johnson from Dejon Tool is making sweet love to Dave Buschur and Tym as we speak!

$700 is more than reasonable from Raceline. You guys should see how badly I hacked the $hit out of my bumper to fit my FMIC, I guess some of you will see it soon here... (if I ever put the damn car back together)

Kevin doesn't mean to sound like such a douche, but he can't help it...

We have a little joke around these parts about everybody being on Buschur's nuts so badly. We have a HUGE group of DSM enthusiasts over here (3 of us) that have decided to make our cars fast as a large mammal (any one you wish) without any parts from Bushcur. The only problem is that 2 of the 3 members of our crazy selective crew (we secretly hate eachother) have Buschur FMIC kits.

I am surprised Kevin got on here and told someone how easy and cheap it is to fabricate something like this. I remember one entire week of cutting and welding for his damn exhaust, and a whole $hitload more money spent than he originally thought. So in the end, you are all right, and wrong at the same time. And you are definitely worse off for having read my response.

Carry on ladies...

[9secondtalon]

I said my hats off to you DIY guys who make it work, not saying hack in any portion of the post. I have seen some good DIYer stuff and I was trying to commend some of those on here who have done so. If you make a good exhaust for half the cost= sweet, make some more and sell them and make some $.

[Kevin Doe]

the only reason it ends up costing less is because I don't charge myself for labor. ;) Otherwise my exhaust would have costed me $3000.

Kevin

[Ty.]

To me, time = money

I like fab'ing shit just as much as the next guy, but on certain things, if someone that i TRUST will do it for me, for a little more, then fuck, let them fab it up :)

I love doing all the work myself, but sometimes its just more convienent to have someone do the dirty work. I myself, have never had my car in a shop for anything. I might of had someone make me a part or two, but i have always installed the part after it was made.

I just know that to someone, 700 for some IC piping made and installed is worth it to them so they dont have to do it themselves :) Fuck, i paid robbie 20 bucks to shovel my car out of the driveway after the snow, because i didnt feel like it :laugh:

-Ty

[4511.251]

i like the way my i/c piping is ran better than any kit on the market and i think my i/c looks better imo than any 1g i/c so i didnt have a problem paying what i did for mine

[oneup]

2 45degree bend and 2 90 degree bend pipes and couplers plus $75 tb elbow you have intercooler pipings..weld blow off valve flange on it you are good go...as long as your intercooler is right size and end is faceing the motor....thats what came with buschur fmic kit I think you can do that cheaper btw $700 for installed fmic is pretty cheap, considring its time consuming job ...i hate both kevin and nick.

[red90AWD]

well i guess i was wrong then..... didnt really think in depth before i spoke. my bad. shit happens.... matt

[NOLV4V8]

i like the way my i/c piping is ran better than any kit on the market and i think my i/c looks better imo than any 1g i/c so i didnt have a problem paying what i did for mine


did you ever find my part. I need your # so i can meet up with you to get it back